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"Watson's right. Nobody cares what he says — the internet has already decided. In fact, from the minute Sherlock appeared, the instant audience conclusion was that Holmes and Watson were lovers. Cumberbatch and Freeman have been dealing with the fallout ever since, in part with good humour, in part with mild exasperation. "Much as Sherlock adores John, and he's fond of him, there's no love, there's nothing sexual — all the jokes aside," Cumberbatch says. "The problem is, they [the jokes in the script] fuel the fantasy of the few into flames for the many. People presume that's what it is, but it's not."

The series has inspired cultish devotion that easily outstrips its short first run.Hardcore Sherlock fans have taken to sites such as Tumblr in order to imagine what Holmes and Watson might get up to once the deduction is done for the day. Cue much nervous giggling between Freeman and Cumberbatch. "There is weird fan fiction out there — weird," Cumberbatch says. "They write stories and do manga cartoons of what they think you get up to behind closed doors. Some of it's funny. Some of it's full-on sex. Get Martin to show you some."

Freeman, who hasn't had a laptop for long, and is thus new to the wonders of slash fiction, suggests that I look it up myself, but is happy to précis: "There are a lot of people hoping that our characters and ourselves are rampantly at it most of the time."

The fact that the two leads in Sherlock are now to appear in The Hobbit, another cult favourite, has sent the fantasists haywire. "It's already started," Freeman says, unfurling the fatigued, world's-gone-mad look that he has practically trademarked. "There are cartoons where Smaug has Sherlock's blue scarf and hair. And Bilbo's got a woolly jumper like John wears, and they're snuggling up on a rug. I think it's tongue in cheek — which saves it from being really scary. It's people doing it knowing they've got too much time on their hands."

-The Sunday Times, January 1 2012


My fellow Sherlockians and Holmsians, please take just a FEW MOMENTS to read this… I would really appreciate it.


So yes, apparently the boys know everything. That picture they describe? I've seen it several times [I could probably easily find it if I wanted] And I've seen these people who say they're going to stop tagging Benedict and Martin's names in their posts so that the boys can't find what they're saying about them. I won't.

I refuse to tag my posts any differently. I love Martin and I love Benedict. In fact, I love all the cast that they've put together for Sherlock. I'm a classic Arthur Conan Doyle fan, having read every single one of the stories and books, along with all the extra stories that have been written. I've watched all the different actors portray Holmes and Watson and Benedict and Martin are another two of those men.

Now Sherlock done by BBC does have a special spot in my heart out of all the different versions because it was done by two men, Moffat and Gatiss, who are, like myself, true Holmsians. They've read all the stories, just like I have, and give the story a new twist by making it in the modern day. They bring forward to the story aspects from the original writing, which a lot of people tend to cut out when they re-make something. I appreciate that. They also show us the characters that are there besides just Holmes and Watson, or here, besides just Sherlock and John. You get a better feeling of the sibling rivalry between Sherlock and Mycroft, you learn about the tense relationship between Sherlock and Lestrade [even if we don't know his first name still] and how John eases that. We now, thanks to the new episode, see in more detail the relationship between Irene and Sherlock that I could never have imagined on my own just based on Doyle's writing. You see how important Mrs Hudson is, and you see the very acute similarities between Sherlock and Jim.

The characters of this series were always real in my mind as a child  and these two men have given me a better aspect of what they would be like today.

So yes, I am a John/Sherlock shipper. Do I ship Martin/Benedict? Not really, they're both fantastic actors but I know neither of them are gay. Martin is happily married with children and Benedict I believe has a very lovely girl friend right now. Am I happy for these men that have so changed my life? Yes. I do love the skewed form of imagination that I have which lets me believe that Sherlock and John have a romantic relationship, but I also love the relationship they have a friends.

I can take in stride, the different homosexual and heterosexual relationships that the fan's have paired together. Hell, I even support some of the really crack pairings of the characters and inanimate objects, such as John/Jam or Mycroft/umbrella, but more so for the entertainment value than anything else.

I've gone with this fandom since the beginning and I will be with it till the end. Will I be upset at the end of series two when John and Sherlock haven't swooned at each other's feet, proclaiming their undying love for one another in a homoerotic fashion? No. It would be funny as hell to witness that, seeing Benedict and Martin act the scene's out, but I know that it won't happen because all Holmes and Watson are, all Sherlock and John are, is friends.

Will I continue to ship John/Sherlock? Yes. I doubt that anyone in the world could convince me to stop thinking about John and Sherlock together, it's just set in my way that I think like that. But I can appreciate the actual friendship that the two characters have for one another without letting my slashy-fangirl mind get in the way.

Will I continue to write fanfiction and draw fanart about the two characters, being portrayed by our ever lovely Martin and Benedict? Yes, I probably will. I will also probably continue to do it with the original characters done up by Doyle, the Granada Holmes version and the Guy Ritchie version as well because, you guessed it, I'm that much of a Holmsian that I don't care and none are really better than any of the others. They are always, to me, Sherlock Holmes and Dr John H Watson.

I will continue to tag, I don't care if Martin and Benedict see this [it would be actually pretty cool if they did, you know?] because I know that they will appreciate me being what I am, a fan, taking time out of their busy lives [and trust me, with 5 brothers, attending Uni for my Bachelors in Criminal Justice and planning to go to Law School at Oxford in a year in a half, life can get pretty hectic for me] to show, give, and spread love to the amazing fandom that is Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes.

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FreakyFangirl97 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012  Hobbyist
I LOVE YOU. I think exactly the same way.

Well, almost exactly...:
I love S/J, but I wouldn't ship Benny and Martin, but to be honest, I can't think of John and Sherlock in a 'we are [just] bros' way it would destroy my little fangirlheart! Because, to be serious, I can't see them as 'just' friends, seriously, l forgot it!

[Greetings to Benedict and Martin (if they read this).]
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012  Professional Photographer
LOL Well I can't not think of them having a just friends relationship. Arthur Conan Doyle created them as just friends and that's what they were back in the late 1800's. But thanks!
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purplenekomata Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Manga cartoons"

Benedict, never stop being so adorable!!!
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LordOfThePandas Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Student General Artist
True. That was a great Benedict line...WE LOVE YOU CUMBERBATCH! :sherlock:
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jen201101 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, this is great. Somehow, I figured those two would know (hello, Internet), and it sounds like they are . . . cool with it, I guess? I am a newcomer to the Holmesians <subtext>I'm a bit of an obsessive, ok?</subtext> (god, I hope I did that right, or this will look stupid I hate HTML), and I am a MAJOR S/J SHIPPER. Totally cool that they are just friends, though. And you can see that, really you can. Jokes aside, Sherlock Holmes and John Watson have a major bromance going that will last for eternity. I love that.
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the-improbable-ive Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012  Student General Artist
Wow, I can't even imagine what it'd be like to be in their shoes...like SO awkward to find that kind of slash fiction...oh.

But what you wrote is very well worded, and I think it's a great way to think of things.
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012  Professional Photographer
Thank you very much
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TashiiPear Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012
I don't know you, but you're amazing, okay?
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012  Professional Photographer
Well thanks, I just wrote what I feel is all, but again, thank you :D
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rulia Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Student Artist
i usually ship character not actors

but reading this makes me feel.... are people went that far without really thinking or something?
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i don't know if i said it right.

I like what you wrote . :)


I like reasons.
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rulia Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Student Artist
I do not type much .
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Xi-Theta Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012
Spoken like a true shipper.
Personally, I think it would be too weird if Sherlock/John became canon. It fetters the imagination of the community if we get spoon-fed the ins and out of the romance and the dynamic. I'm content with the vibrant conjecture and the blatant slash, knowing that we are safe from the 'reality' of it.
In terms of RPF, I can't condemn it outright without being a hypocrite to one of my other fandoms, but I can stipulate that the aforementioned other show is a 'magazine'-type show and the presenters ACTIVELY play it up for laughs. RPF of actors crosses a line for me, especially if they say outright that it unnerves them.
I'm a lurker for the most part, maybe my argument is invalid, but if nothing else we should respect the families of those involved. By all means continue to tag, to write, draw and create with the characters ALL Ye Shippers, but leave to the actors their own lives.
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Professional Photographer
Thank you so much for your thoughtful comments, I appreciate whenever anyone has something to say about my writing and the fact that everyone so far has had positive things to say just makes me gush up inside! Thank you again!
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Xi-Theta Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012
Its a handful of 'fans' making trouble for the masses as far as I can see, yours is the voice of the reasonable fan. I'm glad you decided to bring the topic up, though: it made me think about my position on RPF, which has got to be a good thing. :D
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CuilpantielIndilwen Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012
I think that this argument could be seen by a lot of sides.
If I'm not wrong it's something like Sherlock Holmes and John Watson are the almost very first yaoi shipped.
I ship them, of course, and in my opinion there's nothing bad in it. (you know, rule 34 of Internet, but it's not it XD).
In my opinion the actors are the voice of the characters, so if I ship Sherlock/ John of BBC I'm not shipping Benedict and Martin. Actually I don't like the fandom where they ship the actors. They've their own life, and it's fair like this.
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MissPaperJoker Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
You know, for me, there are like two dimensions of them.

Be it Holmes and Watson or Sherlock and John (old and newXD) I like seeing them written as a couple, just because those fantastic characters give so much to address all kinds of things in love, a relationship and life, it makes it worth reading.
I know a few slashy fanfictions, that are just without a doubt fantastic literature in itself. That is always one of the most important parts for me. They can be seen in so many scenarios and their character traits challenge really extraordinary situations, I canīt help but love it. And I profit from it, immensely, for entertainment and for life experience. The good ones teach me lessons for life, really.

But I differ. The two dimensions. There is the slashy stuff which I canīt help but adore (most of it, some things notXD) and there is the "real" thing. First of all, Benedict/Martin NEVER. I just love them as friends, friendship is very valuable and wonderful. But the "real thing" I was talking about is between Sherlock Holmes and John Watson.
In "real", in the books and in the series, I see them as friends. They have a bond, a connection, they adore each other, but itīs friendship. Definitely. (I mean, feelings like jealousy still apply to a friendship afterall, too.)

I donīt know if that makes any sense... I just wouldnīt want to see them together. I like the good and solid friendship between them. But, at the same time, I just love to read about them as a couple, just because of reasons mentioned above. So saying, two dimensions.

My mind runs on many different tracks, I supposeXD

Anyway, thank you for posting this!
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2012  Professional Photographer
I understand completely, and no, thank you for commenting~
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MissPaperJoker Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Ah thank goodness :) my pleasure!
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Super-Skitty Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2012  Student Writer
I could not have put it better myself. :)

I've been a fan of the Holmes stories since the beginning, and I love all the incarnations (though I must admit the BBC version does hold a special place in my heart, along with the Guy Ritchie). And though I do read a lot of fan-fiction for Holmes/Watson, I'm always sure to stay away from the really 'hardcore' stuff because it just doesn't work for me. I'm all for a bit of fluff and bromance now and again - in fact I'm starting to try and write a bit of it myself - but I would never consider them to be a canon couple. The main highlight of the show for me, apart from the constant references and the marvellous twists that Moffat and Gatiss cook up, is the true friendship between John and Sherlock. For me, no matter how cute it is, and even though I am a huge shipper, they will always be what they were intended to be: the best of friends.

Also, people who ship the actors just because of their characters... Well, I don't even know where to begin. Just... No, people. There's no need for that.

Sorry to rant, but I just had to say this. ^^; (And now I'm imagining poor Martin and Benedict's reactions to the fanart on Tumblr. Oh, my goodness. XD)
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Angelchild2511 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I couldn't have put it better my self lol It just seems weird for me to see them as a couple, especially since in the books, John eventually marries and moves out of 221B. They act like brothers to me lol They actually remind me of my two cousins the way they act.

By the way, did you see his interview on the Graham Norton Show?? They talk briefly about it, and the comment he made was absolutely hilarious XD
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Super-Skitty Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Student Writer
Exactly. That is exactly it. They're best friends and brothers in bond, but lovers? Not really.

No, but I'd certainly like to now! XD Aw, I must see this!
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Angelchild2511 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
if you type this into youtube, it should come up ---> Martin Freeman - The Graham Norton Show (06-01-2012) that's all the bits concerning Martin
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MsHatter15 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Student General Artist
Well said!
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Ouchez Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I firmly believe that Sherlock is asexual in both the books and the BBC show. They have fairly obviously implied it in the show. I think where the actors get confused is the fact that many people don't actually think that the characters are gay but rather they just like to think of the two characters this way. I'm not going to say that I don't like some slash stuff but at the same time I don't believe it to be canon at all.

Also just the thought of them going through tumblr and finding these posts is highly amusing to me. Just imagining some of their reactions would be hilarious. XD
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xXEmozYaoiXx Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I could not have said this better than myself, I like Sherlock/John and I'm quite into (REALLY into) the Sherlock fandom I've read most of them and seen most as well but shipping the actors are a little out to lunch for my taste.
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Nemesis12 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
Bravo. And I write slash for fun, I know they're best friends, and I'm trying not to make all of my fanfics slashy now. But I will always be a Shwatsonlock shipper.
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Professional Photographer
Oh dear, yes. I will always be a Johnlock fan... no doubt about it. I don't think I've ever tried to write a non-slash fanfiction, because I believe that non-slash ones are basically the cannon writings... I could just re-read the cannon writing :D
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DahliaX Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
:clap: I support this!
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editor42 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
you said it very well!

I totally agree with you because we all love the actors and makers for who they are and what they do. But we also love the chacaters.
Like said by someone else: it's a shared imaginary world.
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Professional Photographer
Thank you, I really have strong feelings about this series and when I saw people on Tumblr just saying that they would stop tagging Benedict or Martin in their stuff because they didn't want the actors to find them I was offended. Why shouldn't they see what we do? It's in tribute to them after all. And yes, all it really is is our imaginations.
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editor42 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
actually it makes me a bit proud to know that they see what we do. Don't they make this so we enjoy it, and it's normal that people make drawings, fics,... about it.
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Freedomcomes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
You put this forward so well!

I agree with you. And I'm pretty sure that Benedict and Martin and whoever wrote that article should know that we write/draw/read these things because we KNOW it's not reality. It's just a shared imaginary world.

And anyway, the BBC Sherlock is technically an AU Fanfic anyway!

:P
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Professional Photographer
Well yes, the BBC version is technically an AU, but so is the Ritchie version because that's not how it happened. I think Granada Holmes was the closest to the cannon but I still enjoy all of them very much.
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Freedomcomes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
I meant that all versions that are not ACD are AU, I mentioned BBC specifically as the article referred to it specifically.
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BleedingSilverBird Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
Well put. I believe your words go for all of us (more or less, I don't think that every fan has read all stories and watched all adaptations). If they don't, then they are not fans, just slashers.
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Professional Photographer
And I hate that! When people go and watch the movie's or the series on the telly and haven't read the books. They're missing all the jokes and tributes that those creators have worked so hard to show from the actual cannaon! It upsets me, because people need to read ACDoyle's work for what it is, a work of art!
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InnocentSmile97 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
That was really interesting! And I completely agree with you! Characters and Actors are 2 veeeeerrryyyy different things. Sometimes people confuse them but I do try not to.

While think fan fiction and art is really cool (lol I do it myself XD) some it can be... urm... awkward...

But it's all ok - if that's what they wanna draw and write! ;) Just so long as we remember that there is a difference between Characters and Actors!
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Professional Photographer
It's true, some fanfiction or hard core can be awkward. I have written two fic's that are using Martin's and Benedict's versions of Sherlock and John in a romantic relationship and in one of them there are two graphic sex scenes. This isn't because I don't love John and Sherlock as they were intended to be, friends, but because I love the concept of Sherlock and John in a romantic relationship as well as being best mates.
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Indy-chan Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
Glad someone sees it that way. When I see some stuff on the internet, I think 'Oh man, that has to be awkward for the actors'. I don't say that it's bad, if fans draw 'awkward' pictures, I just guess that it would really freak me out, if I were an actor and saw aomething like that about me.
On the other hand, I ship practically everyone with Sherlock, because it's just too cute. John, Molly, Irene - I don't care. But for me, that's it. I don't ship the actors, because I wouldn't want somebody running around, claiming something like that about me.
But I agree with you, don't stop tagging them, because as long as it's not too extreme, I think every actor appreciates fanstuff. It's a kind of a salute to them, doing good work with their acting, because people really like the characters enough to draw them, write about them, etc.
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Professional Photographer
It's true, some of the things can be awkward for the actors, but I myself would think it flattering that so many people out there are so happy with the work I have done as an actor to send tribute to me, using my visage, to express themselves with art or writing. I hope they understand that too.
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Indy-chan Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2012
I really hope so. But I think they do.
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Apple-spice-15 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Student General Artist
I think that the idea of Watson/Holmes is always going to be hard to dispel. After all, people have debated it at length simply based on the books. I think it's amusing and sometimes very sweet, but I can't actually see myself believing it to be true; It takes away from the friendship somewhat. The idea that two people could be that close without it being anything sexual is lovely, and I'd never actually expect or want it to go beyond that. I think that in the 2009 film it's pretty much shoved in the viewers faces and almost seems to be asking for people to jump onto the band wagon. But as far as 'Sherlock' is concerned, I think that half the people who actually ship them would be surprised and angry if it appeared in the programme. And I'd never in my life even contemplate shipping Martin/Benedict, I think that if you actually go as far as to bring the people into it then you've crossed a line; they're not their characters.

But, yeah, a quick conclusion of my rant: Sherlock and John will always be seen as incredible friends to me. Sure, they love each other, but it doesn't mean that it's sexual. Sometimes platonic love is the strongest kind. I'll shut up now.
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Professional Photographer
Oh no no! I love it when people rant at me. When I sit down and take the time to write something like this I always love having people respond back to me with their own ideas, where they thought mine made sense or where I sound completely batty. Thank you for your input.
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InnocentSmile97 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
I feel the same way! Yes, the jokes they make about it are funny but they only really work if Sherlock and John are just friends. Sure, the idea of them being in love is cute and all but I kinda prefer it as a friendship, possibly push it to a bromance in fanworld ;)

And I also agree with you on the actors front :)

(PS ~ love your signature thingy. One of the best bits so far XD)
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Shitakie Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Student General Artist
I love SherlockxWatson but only if it was jude Law and RDJ. To me Cumberbatch and Martin are more like good brothers and sure they may have a slight cannon going on between one another but it's mainly to me that Watson is more or less watching over Holmes like a guardian angel rather than a lover. I hope that the fanbase doesn't scare them off....cause it'll be a shame to actually meet them and have them be all frighten that i'mma gonna shove my manporn fantasies about them down their throats
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Professional Photographer
LOL Well the actual cannon is that they are friends and nothing like lovers. The actual show, if people would stop looking at the 'between the lines' lines are that of two best friends. Now I do like the Jude Law/RDJ versions and it was even more so made for me to like that pair when the new movie came out, I mean really, a dancing scene? That was just too funny.

As for being frightened off, I think that even if we are rabid fangirls, we love those boys too much to ever try and displease them, and there for, will not shove our 'manporn' as you put it, down their throats. Most fangirls [unlike me] would scream and giggle and faint. I've met some of my acting/voice acting hero's before and have lead normal conversations with them about their work and things that we have in common rather than freak out like I am on the inside, so if I ever met Benedict or Martin I think I would tell them what fantastic job's they done and what other work they've done that I like [such as Martin in H2G2 and both of them in The Hobbit I'll assume along with Benedict's amazing role in War Horse] and just chat them up.
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Lady-Chan101 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Heh, they're catching on to us. But that will not deter me from my love of Shatsonlock (even though it'll probably never happen in canon). Interesting piece though.
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IMarriedMyFandoms Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Professional Photographer
Thank you. That was my whole point, that the boys may know what we're doing and have even seen our work, but no matter what I will always be a John/Sherlock shipper :D
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Lady-Chan101 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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DNA-The-Authoress Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2012
This is awesome. You have made my day. :D
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